Oi Girley, As a former 3D-graphic, I can't imagine it being very difficult to calculate an exact position and height for the shot in question by using a quite simple 3D-model. What you need is a very simple model, more or less outlining the buildings, trees & then rotoscoping (overlaying 3D & the video) to the correct position, checking the virtual-camera position & finally comparing it to real-world geography.Most 3D aplications (like Softimage in wich I used to work in) also gives full control to twaek the virtual kamera, focal-length a.s.o. and this together with some geographic & position info, should give you a very exact position for the shot and if it's plausible....and am I wrong in remembering a shot of the 2nd hit from across the bay? If the footage was taken from a ship, that thingie would probably be visible in that footage, right?If you have any questions about this CSI'ish idéa you're welcome to contact me on email@example.comBest Rgds/Johnny Farmfield - Sweden
Simply checking Google Earth it seems likely the CNN shot was made from on top of Castle Clinton Memorial. Check it out!
Received an email from former 3-D "Johnny Farmfield" (above) who, after looking at an earlier posting in "Conspicuous Plot", Stated this pic which I took a few months ago "...is the correct position for the plate used in the CNN clip, you're just off by 10-15 years of tree growth...I don't believe you'll need to virtualize beyond your cropped image, this is the location for the primary plate and might in my opinion even be taken from an old still image."So, the reason we can't find the match is that we did find it, but it's not a "match" since there are trees blocking.Check the same above link to an earlier posting in this blog for Google Earth images. Yea, the top of the wall at Castle Clinton might work and get around the blocking trees. But then, you'd have to think about something else - tourists don't sit on the top of that wall. And if he, she or they were sitting there, it would establish foreknowledge. Where did CNN get the clip?
The shot is not possible from on top of Castle Clinton. Someone just climbed up and checked and we can rule that out. The shot is not possible from anywhere at all.
Dude, It's a FUCKING CINCH to devine the EXACT CAMERA POSITION TO WITHIN A METER OR TWO.Four matchmoving programs can extrapolate the original camera movement/position to the meter.Bijou 3dRealvizVoodoo (freeware)Icarus Maya Live (Module of Maya Unlimited)The Pixel Farm PFTrackPFHoePFTrack algorithms)RealViz MatchMoverSciene.D.Visions 3DEqualizer (which won an academy award for technical achievement)Ssontech SynthEyes2d3 BoujouIf you're so hot to find out the camera position and want to base a life on it why in the hell don't you get with the fucking program and do some science . It's not that hard to do.This "fakery" NONSENSE is for fools and GOVERNMENT DISINFORMATION SPECIALISTS.No Doubt THIS ROCKEFELLER SCUM and his CIA AND CFR perpetrated the attacks on 911. That is a fact. AND THEY USED PLANES TO HIT THE TOWERS. AND A RATHEON CRUISE MISSLE TO HIT THE PENTAGON. and no plane in pensylvania.VOXFUX
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